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bhavv · May 11, 2008, 02:52 PM // 14:52

You dont have to grind your ass off to 80, why is the average gamers mentality 'OMG I must get max level ASAP!!!'

These kind of games are actually enjoyable at all levels.

You can take 3 months getting to 80 and still enjoy it.

Malice Black · May 11, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

The more you play/grind the faster you level.

~1 month for no lifers to reach 80. 4 months for the sub 20 hours per week players.

~ Dan ~ · May 11, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by bhavv

You dont have to grind your ass off to 80, why is the average gamers mentality 'OMG I must get max level ASAP!!!'

It isn't. It's just nice to reach endgame content, and have your character completed in terms of build.

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These kind of games are actually enjoyable at all levels.

From what i've read, rogues lolstomp every other class at this low a level in PvP. The majority seems to be hoping for a balance at 80 (yes, max level).

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You can take 3 months getting to 80 and still enjoy it.

No shit sherlock. That's how i went about LOTRO. I ask a question on how levelling is incorporated in AoC, and you jump down my throat? Fag.

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

The more you play/grind the faster you level.

~1 month for no lifers to reach 80. 4 months for the sub 20 hours per week players.

I understand that. I was simply asking because levelling can be made to be the grind (diablo 2 style), or it might not be a big deal (GW style).

Malice Black · May 11, 2008, 03:18 PM // 15:18

More GW then EQ. Better

Nevin · May 11, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Do any of you AoC fans know if there will be a free trial anytime soon? If theres ever a friend invite situation, hit me up!

Malice Black · May 11, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

You get 5 free friend invites. I'll shoot one your way via PM when I get my box.

bhavv · May 11, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24

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Originally Posted by ~ Dan ~

It isn't. It's just nice to reach endgame content, and have your character completed in terms of build.

A lot of people are actually determined to reach maximum level as fast aspossible, they dont care much for the content untill the end game. It is nice to reach the endgame content yes, but it is also a good game experience to enjoy the lower levels too, which a lot of players dont do.

Also on PVP servers, some people want to level up asap and start ganking. I wont be playing on the PVP servers anymore after reading about the PVP beta, but people that like ganking will be doing.

1 free friend invite with the standard edition, 5 with the CE. I wanted to use my own friend key, but I dont think I can after using a pre order key and paying for early access

Will still see if it works though.

~ Dan ~ · May 11, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

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Originally Posted by bhavv

A lot of people are actually determined to reach maximum level as fast aspossible, they dont care much for the content untill the end game. It is nice to reach the endgame content yes, but it is also a good game experience to enjoy the lower levels too, which a lot of players dont do.

I know. I'm not one of those "average gamers", so there was no need to respond to me with:

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why is the average gamers mentality 'OMG I must get max level ASAP!!!'

As for me, i'll be rolling on a PvP server. I'm confident it won't turn into a gankfest.

Bryant Again · May 11, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Oblivion was like a kick in the stomach from Bethesda, to me. I used to love The Elder Scrolls series.

Morrowind was my "kick in the stomach". But it was still a great game. I don't think I'll ever put any amount of hours into a game as much as Daggerfall, though.

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Yep, I'm like cancer...

Meaning that no one wants you?

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...and you compromise yourself greatly, firstly by saying that you dont want to spend a large chunk of your money on an upgrade, and then by saying that thats the only thing that you would do.

I'm saying that I will upgrade, but to a point it's more affordable.

There's an exponential increase of expenses when covering new computer technology. Newly released and advanced hardware will be super expensive when it comes out, but technology that is precisely right behind it in terms of advancement has a greatly decreased price.

"Upgrading when everything is cheaper" is basically what I said.

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But whatever, keep on finding some more arguments to hate the game and refuse to play it for whatever reasons you have, doesnt change the fact that plenty of people are looking forward to playing it and leaving whichever MMO they currently play.

I never said I hated it. In fact, I think I recall saying that I hope it does well, since there are very few MMO's becoming successful. I'm just not going to get as excited as a newborn pup about it. The performance issues are always a concern, not just for AoC, but for any game I look to purchase. Regarding what I've read and heard, from you and many *many* others, it doesn't sound entirely "groundbreaking".

If I had an awesome computer and a choice between AoC and WAR, I'd probably go to AoC. But I don't have an awesome computer, so I will go with WAR. AoC is pushing a lot of technical boundaries, and I've merely stated that that will turn away a few gamers, moreso than "bad" or "dated" graphics.

Anarkii · May 11, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Leveling is like WoW if you're asking about the pace. You'll get to 80 just doing the quests without the need to stay and kill mobs in any area.

A month to get to max level playing 6-8hours a day.

Anarkii · May 11, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Also, I dont consider myself to be a 'fanboy' of any game, but WAR is absolutely terrible. Everyone on the outside considers WAR to be a WoW+DAoC hybrid and thus the 'next big thing', but every single person in closed beta I know hates it with a passion.

It's mostly between AoC, Wrath of the Lich King and Aion in the near future.

Malice Black · May 11, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

WAR will be the next big thing. It as low spec requirements, and prob a small learning curve.

AoC spec req are too high if you want playable GFX(40fps+). Aion will prob have similar spec req.

Nevin · May 11, 2008, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

WAR will be the next big thing. It as low spec requirements, and prob a small learning curve.

AoC spec req are too high if you want playable GFX(40fps+). Aion will prob have similar spec req.

I wouldn't rush the gun on Aion. It's still built on the same engine that GW is, many people over look that.

Edit: Thanks in advance for the invite Malice.

Malice Black · May 11, 2008, 05:30 PM // 17:30

If it looks like GW, it'll fail. GW graphics are nothing to get excited about these days.

AoC actually has pretty low minimum spec requirements, but min specs = everything on low, with no eyecandy. Who wants to play like that?

Bryant Again · May 11, 2008, 05:32 PM // 17:32

It's the art direction of Aion that bothers me, I've seen little difference between it and L2.

And I thought Aion was built on the Cry engine?

@Below me: Ouch, dude.

~ Dan ~ · May 11, 2008, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Looks like no AoC for me. I've been told that it can't be played with an intel chipset.

enxa · May 11, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

You get 5 free friend invites. I'll shoot one your way via PM when I get my box.

Could i please get one too?

Malice Black · May 11, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

You just realized that?!

I personally think anything less then a 7600 will struggle on anything besides 'low'.

enxa - sure.

~ Dan ~ · May 11, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

You just realized that?!

I personally think anything less then a 7600 will struggle on anything besides 'low'.

Seeing as i had/have no idea how an intel chipset compares to ATI/GeForce - yes, i've just realized.

netniwk · May 11, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Anarkii

Leveling is like WoW if you're asking about the pace. You'll get to 80 just doing the quests without the need to stay and kill mobs in any area.

A month to get to max level playing 6-8hours a day.

how is getting max level playing 6-8 hours a day for a whole month not much?